Fx-pundiai swap bug and response ( NOT PUNDIX)

The attacker exploited uninitialized ERC1967Proxy contracts, which allowed them to deploy a malicious implementation and mint tokens.

This was not a vulnerability in Ethereum or the swap contract itself.

The implementation and initialization of ERC1967Proxy contracts are entirely a project-level decision.

Just because similar exploits have occurred on other contracts does not absolve a project from the responsibility of securing its own contracts.

To be clear, I am not assigning legal responsibility or claiming any intent to sue; I am simply explaining where the functionality and security responsibility lies.

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I just want to chime in on this from my perspective.

Years ago, I had SHIBI coins through a broker named Voyager. Voyager went bankrupt. It took about a year to get to where I was able to migrate some of the coins to another broker, but I had lost a good bit of value, coins, and time with all of what happened.

I day trade on Coinbase. I got a hold of some of this FX before the switch flipped. My question is, would this follow a similar option of bankrupt / court case / etc to where all we can do is wait months or possibly a year? I already will write this off as a loss, convert it to Pundi (then something like Avalanche or Polkadot) and cycle back into my Coinbase trading.

I am not trying to hold people’s feet to the fire, just wondering what options are out there.

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my understanding if you write off or proclaim your self bankrupt your no longer in a position to have a legal claim to loss, i’m not a legal person don’t take what i say as correct, but I would research that.

when you join an exchange you sign an acknowledgement you understand the risks, your loss is not with PUNDI as coinbase are in control of your asset.

note seek legal advise if you think you need it, but we are not here to hand out legal advise.

Yeah I learned about the coins are not really your asset but the broker you go through unfortunately. And yes, you are right that Coinbase is the one holding my funds, not PUNDI.

I guess we have to sit this out until the green light to swap on the Ethereum network (which is not now obviously due to all the factors). I am not as much worried about the profit / loss, as I see those coins on my screen I can’t move out of my sight.

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I know we are all beating a dead horse at this point.

This was the most recent email from my concierge at Coinbase: “Our team has confirmed that we are awaiting the ‘FX’ contract to be re-enabled prior to transfers being resumed.”

I believe another email to Coinbase is in order to check on the status here. As the FX team has made it clear that this is not an option.

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I’m very sorry to say this, Eli — it’s probably not what you want to hear.

The Korean exchanges are absorbing whatever liquidity is left. It happened very quickly, and I’m truly sorry. :broken_heart:

Right now, the swap would only return pennies. As hard as it is to accept, this is the reality. Even if the project reopened trading, liquidity in $FX would likely evaporate even faster without a swap that can support its valuation.

It’s a tough situation for everyone involved as an investor.
Its just too late at this point.

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The leadership has made a complete mess of this project and should respond properly to the current situation. Losing more than 70% of value would be a death sentence for any leader in the financial world. Yet in crypto, leaders often think they can do whatever they want—simply minting more coins to cover their own losses.

What are the plans of the leadership to fix this? It cannot be that investors are the ones forced to bleed for your mistakes.

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I tend to believe @Chazdurman. A lot of eyes are on this project ; angry investors all over the world losing millions.
I would think project staying silent for good maybe legal reasons.

I really do not understand why they are silent!!

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Because Zi Ben , Pitt Huang , Danny Lim , Constantin Papadimitriou and David Ben Kay are now on the FBI’s radar.

That’s why they are silent.

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Good. I have over 15K that is currently Locked and worthless

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Having assisted in deterring further damage during the exploit, here is our observation as MarginX. We understand the frustration felt by token traders and the impact of the sudden price drop. These events create uncertainty and leave many feeling caught in the middle, especially when exchange decisions directly affect whether holders can recover value.

From our perspective, the reason the old FX contract has not been reactivated is clear. The contract was exploited and hackers minted a substantial number of tokens that still exist on chain. If that contract were turned back on, those tokens would remain valid and could be sold into the market, which would harm legitimate holders and drain liquidity. Because tokens on chain cannot be erased once created, leaving the contract permanently frozen is the only way to prevent further losses and avoid confusion from having two versions of FX circulating.

On the exchange side, solutions have already been proposed. Other centralized exchanges, such as MEXC and HTX, have supported the redenomination and completed the swap for their users, which shows it can be done when an exchange cooperates. The selling pressure was further enhanced by the delisting from Korean CEXs, which was expected since Korean law only allows trading on licensed local platforms. Importantly, those exchanges still enabled withdrawals, and users can continue to trade through DEXs if they choose.

Coinbase, however, has not yet acted. With the FX contract frozen, the project cannot directly access user balances, and Coinbase has not disclosed wallet addresses. This leaves Coinbase customers in limbo until the exchange makes a decision. From an outside view, the situation at Coinbase is a clear reminder of the principle “not your keys, not your tokens.” Users on self-custody wallets or exchanges that allowed withdrawals still have options, while those waiting on Coinbase are dependent on the exchange’s next move.

It is also worth pointing out that the project has made efforts to communicate throughout this process. The redenomination timeline was announced in advance, and AMAs were held to explain the swap, redenomination, and exploit response. These records are available in the forum thread itself and show that updates were shared openly rather than hidden. While communication may not solve every concern, the facts indicate that the key steps and decisions were disclosed publicly.

We have also seen comments about possible FinCEN or SEC involvement. In practice, FinCEN would only be relevant if there were money transmission or AML issues, while the SEC would only step in if FX or PUNDIAI were treated as securities. Both tokens are consistently described as utility tokens within the ecosystem. Under the Howey Test, they do not strongly meet the criteria for a security: although there is an investment of money, there is no pooling of profits, no promise of returns, and the token’s function is tied to usage rather than expectation of profit from the efforts of others. Based on this, the case for securities classification appears weak.

It should also be noted that not every post in this forum may represent the views of genuine token holders. In situations like this, individuals with other motives, including those connected to the exploit, may attempt to apply pressure or influence discussion. From an outside perspective, the most important thing is to keep the focus on verified facts and the protection of legitimate holders.

This observation is provided in good faith to clarify the situation, but it cannot be taken as legal or financial advice, and it should not be relied upon in any court or regulatory proceeding. No further response should be expected from this view once posted.

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The price drop mostly came from panic selling. In an open market there are always buyers taking the other side. Best to tune out the noise, watch closely, and do your own research.

Even with all the commotion, products and new developments are still rolling out in the ecosystem. That is why some buyers are waiting to scoop up tokens at lower levels.

Not financial advice.

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A drop from $10 to $0.90 isn’t just panic selling — it’s a systemic collapse caused by lost liquidity, frozen transfers, and broken trust, not short-term emotions.

Looking at the chart, it’s a textbook example of “trying to catch a falling knife.”

Not financial advice.

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The combination of all emotional things. worth noting that all markets are largely down at the moment which is exasperating & suppressing our own, that’s not mentioned when people talk market because they must really want the value to drop, probably still shorting it.

I can tell you one thing I’m not just holding PUNDIAI, when there are profits in the BULL market from my other holdings, I will continue to buy PUNDIAI, because I know the value will return.

Project people are real their profiles on their website known people in society, completely contactable by any authority.

I know one thing it’s clear the project should seek out all those defaming the project and take legal action against them. especially those with X accounts. the FBI can find you

A lawsuit like that could bring through discovery all internal communications into the open, finally giving everyone clarity on what happened behind the scenes between Coinbase and the project that led to the delistment.

Depending on what’s disclosed, this could be significantly damaging for the project.

If this is reference to me; i have no short position

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if your not clear on what’s happening I suggest you start back at the top of the page again, every word is noted and preserved, as are yours even your edits

You still trying to blame others for what happened not the people actually responsible.

Its really disappointing to see. I do hope you wake up one day from the haze you are under.

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I hope one day your found and held accountable, I see through you